John Bishop Winter (1834-1905) was born in Perth, Scotland in 1834 to James Scott and Ann Crane Winter. He was a hatter by trade. He married Christina Darling (1846-1903) on May 9, 1865. She was the daughter of George (1817-56) and Agnes Gilchrist (1819-65) Darling. George was a haberdasher and when John married Christina, he married into the business, hence he had a reason to stay in Perth while three of his male siblings emmigrated to the US. They had three children: daughters Agnes (1868-1959) and Christinia (1877-1963) neither of which married. Their son, James Winter (1870-1938) married Margaret Kidd (1888-1942); and they had two daughters, Mollie Winter (1905-41), who married David Murie (1904-85) and Margaret "Mardie" Winter. Mardie never married.
Some details on John and Christina's four children:
Agnes Winter, b. Perth (5/18/1868-2/l6/1959}, d. Newport on Tay, Scotland, unmarried She was a teacher and served as principal of St. Johnstown private school..
James Wlnter, b. Perth. (6/7/1870-1938). Married Margaret Easton Kidd (1868-1942) on Aug. 28, 1902 in Dundee, Scotland. James and Margaret had
two daughters—Mollie Winter. b. Aug. 26. 1905. Mollie married. David Murie on April 16, 1938. Mollie died on June 9. 1941 in Perth leaving no children. Her sister, Margaret "Mardie", was born and died in Perth, (July 22. 1909-Nov. 12, 1989). She was the last of the family. While unmarried.Mardie felt that the son from her brother-in-law's marriage, after the death of Mollie, was her nephew and she loved dearly David and his wife Hazel. Many in the US knew Mardie, as she made several trip there and rode the bus to visit many of her relatives. She was a wonderful host in her home, Rosemont, in Perth, to many relatives who stopped to visit.
Margaret Darling was born on June 27, 1872 in Perth and died Aug 27, 1926 in St Johnstown, Perth.
Christina was born in Perth on May 15, 1877 and died at Newport-on-Tay, Scotland on 9/15/1963. She never married.
Acknowledgement: Many of the photos here came from the collection of Margaret "Mardie" Winter. They were generously scanned and provided by David Murie. David's father was David Andrew Rollo Muries whose first wife was Maria "Mollie" Darling Winter, sister of Mardie Winter. Sadly Mollie died in 1941 at the age of 35. David remarried and David is a child of that marriage. Since Mardie Winter never married and Mollie and David had no children, she considered David her nephew. When she died she bequeathed her estate to David and thus he became the owner of her photographs. The Winter family is deeply in David's debt for the loving and responsible way he has hand these treasures and for his generous sharing with the family.
John Bishop and Christina Darling Winter Gallery
Scotland's Highlands
Believed to be John Bishop and Christina Darling Winter, c. 1865, year of their marriage. They lived only a short walk from the photographer, H. Thomson, Perth, 30th George St. (operated between 1860-65, information courtesy of Sara Kelly, Librarian, Perth). In 1861 Scotland Census Christina Darling, born 1846, is a scholar at 23 Window Street, St. Andrews Registry, Midlothian, Edinburgh, Scotland, South Leith. The Water of Leith is a river in northeast corner of Edinburgh. She was on the south side of the river, which is where St. Andrews Church is located.
Photo by George F. Roger, Artist, 57 & 59 Nethergate, Dundee, and Cottage Place, Broughty Ferry. Likely John Bishop Winter (1834-1905) and daughter, Agnes (1868–1959). Roger a photographer in 1871, 81 Censuses. In 1861 is photographer artist, Hawkhill, Dunde, ca 1870
James Scott Winter 1797-1871, Father of John Bishop Winter
Charles Winter (1836-1903). c. 1875. Brother of John Bishop Winter. Came from Scotland in 1857 to Mansfield, MA. Later joined by brothers, William & Patrick Murray.
William Clark Winter(1838-1920), b. Coupar, Angus, Scotland. Came to U. S. about 1867. Brother of John Bishop Winter
(Picture, c. 1915, Courtesy Winifred Hebb)
Patrick Murray Winter 1840-1901
Brother of John Bishop Winter
Highly likely this is Agnes (1868) and James (1870) Winter, children of John Bishop & Christina Winter."H. Thomson, Photographer, 21 Marshall Place, Perth". He was at this address 1866-81. c. 1872-73
Agnes Gilchrist Darling”s (1819-65) Signature, 1857
She was mother of Christina Darling, wife of John Bishop Winter(1834-1905)
Age about 2
Free Middle Church, Perth, Scotland. John Winter, member
Laying of the Memorial Stone of Free Middle Church, Tay Street, Perth, Scotland, on September 30th 1886. John Bishop Winter (1834–1905), Mardie's grandfather, is probably in this picture. He would be 48. As a member of the Building Committee, I guess he is in center, with white beard, just over shoulder of man with his hat upside down so that the bright liner band shows. Other options would be any of men with long beards and bald heads.
Agnes Winter? (1868-1959), c1890, unlabelled. (This photo by J. Henderson, Perth.)
Agnes Winter? (1868-1959), Mardie Winter had a number of photographs of this lady. Photo by Henderson, Perth..
Agnes Winter (1868-1959), On reverse Patronized by the Queen Henderson Perth, George Mason & Co, Mason was in Glasgow and a respected leader in photography. 1900 and earlier.
Margaret Darling (1872-1926), Daughter of John Bishop Winter,(Photo by A. L. Henderson, Perth. He practiced c. 1900) Printed on reverse: "Patronized by the Queen. Henderson, Perth, George Mason & Co."
Margaret Darling Winter, c 1900, Daughter of John Bishop Winter, (Photo: John Spark, 49 York Place, Perth, Elegantly printed on reverse: "Photo Artist, John Spark, 49 York Place, Perth. The negative of this photograph is preserved for future orders and can be reduced for the smallest locket or enlarged up to life size and finished in crayon, ink or water color". (Notice US spelling of "colour".) (found pictures by him in 1899 & 1902.
Agnes and Christina Winter
Agnes Winter. (1868-1959) On reverse Patronized by the Queen Henderson Perth, George Mason & Co, Dress dates 1880-90,
Christina (left)-and-Agnes Winter Perth, 1951, during a visit by Bud & Peg Brown from U.S.(from Peg Brown’s album)
Christina (left) and AgnesWinter, Sisters' of James Winter (Restored by Mel Oakes). Picture taken in Perth by Bud & Peg Brown on their return from a missionary assignment in the Philippines, 1950
Christina Winter (1877-1963)
Agnes Winter, (1868-1959), Picture taken in 1950
James and Margaret Kidd Winter Family
Sisters Mardie 1909-89) & Mollie Winter (1905-41), Perth, Scotland, Children
of James & Margaret Winter, also grandchildren of John Winter(1834-1905)
LtoR: James, Mardie and Margaret Kidd Winter
James, Margaret Kidd & daughter Mardie Winter
Mardie Winter (right) at a wedding 09 Mar 1946
Mardie Winter, (picture from Loel and Marie Raymond)
Mollie & Mardie Winter--about 1915. Mollie could not pronounce “Margaret,” so came up with the nickname “Mardie.”
Maybe, James Winter, Mardie's father or Alexander Kidd. (Herbert Morle, The Raeburn Studio, Perth)
Mardie at top of Bell Tower of Court House, Santa Barbara, California, 1973
Elsie and Ida George Meikel. The Desert in Californis.
Mardie, Beth, Sarah, Pat Oakes and Mardie Winter. Balmoral Castle 1984
David & Hazel Murie, Pat Winter Oakes & Mardie Winter at 4 Rosemount Place, Perth, 1984
Mardie Winter, Mel Oakes, Mardie, Pat, Beth, Sarah, 1984
Mardie Oakes among the lupins in Mardie Winter's back garden at 4 Rosemount Place, Perth, 1984
One of last photos of Mardie Winter
Margaret Winter (nee Kidd) with Mollie and recently-born Mardie
Mardie Winter on left. Hand-written 1936 on reverse. Also imprinted "3 025" and "Velox".
Maggie Winter with her first daughter Molly. Probably 1908 or early 1909.
From page 2 of a family album, unlabelled, but other pics on same page from 1908-09.
Mardie Winter's-Home, Rosemont Place, Perth, Scotland. She was born there in 1908 and lived all her life there. 1984
Mollie Winter on left, maybe 20 which puts picture 1925, Mardie would be 16, too old for young girl. Mollie married at 33. Older woman looks like woman in three pictures unidentified.. Not Maggie.
Labelled "HLK. 7.08" Summer 1908?
Presumably a family picnic. Picture by James Winter, July 1908. On 2nd page of a family album, labelled "J.W. / 2 A / 7.08".
Another paicture of the family picnic. The little girl would be Molly Winter. Picture by James Winter, July 1908. On 2nd page of a family album, labelled "J.W. / 2.B. / 7.08".
Presumably a family picnic. Picture by James Winter, July 1908. On 2nd page of a family album, labelled "J.W. / 2 A / 7.08".
Margaret Darling Winter (1872-1926), Daughter of John Bishop Winter,(Photo by A. L. Henderson, Perth. He practiced c. 1900) Printed on reverse: "Patronized by the Queen. Henderson, Perth, George Mason & Co."
Margaret Darling Winter, c 1900, Daughter of John B. Winter, (Photo: John Spark,49 York Place, Perth) (found pict of his in 1899 & 1902.
Christina Winter, June1960, since Agnes died 1959. Christina died 1963.
1910 Unlabelled, printed as small postcard. Rosemont place. Likely Maggie Winter and daughter Mollie (b. 1905). She is 2 o 3 so picture in 07 or 08.
James & Margaret Kidd Winter with daughter Margaret (Mardie) Winter. Printed as a postcard.
Mardie's parents 1929, James(1866) and Margaret Kidd(1868) Winter
Left to Right: unknown, Maggie Winter, Mardie Winter, James Winter and Mollie Winter. 1909. Another picture on ship below.
Unlabelled. Probably a picture of Mollie & Mardie Winter with their father James pictured on a ship. 1909
August 1909 picture of Molly and Mardie Winter, when Mardie was less than a month old. Could this be with Mardie's paternal grandmother Christina Darling? Or could the lady be the "Lizzie" referred to on the reverse side of this picture produced as a postcard? Likely Lizzie, since she is mentioned in the postcard.
At 4 Rosemount Place, Maggie Winter on right, with Molly Winter centre. Picture by James Winter, July 1908.
On 2nd page of a family album, labelled "J.W. / G7 / 7.08".
"1936" and "26" pencilled on rear. Also stamped Velox.
This book was a New Year's gift to James Winter by his uncle and aunt, James Murray and Margaret Darling in 1910. The dedication reads: "To Jim, with best wishes for a Happy New Year from Uncle & Aunt Maggie." Jim's uncle James was the author of the book.
Book by James Murray, Uncle to James Winter
Postcard back of previous picture.
Mardie Winter. Labelled on reverse: "Mardie 1910".
1920a Mardie with her mother, Miniature photo labelled simply 50 on reverse
Maybe James Winter. Unlabelled, printed as postcard.
James Winter(1866-1938)
1936 or 37, Jim & Maggie Winter and Raymond George at Rosemount Place. Raymond, recent Annapolis graduate, probably on first cruise to England. 2nd Cousin of Mardie Winter.
Left, Raymond George, (1st cousin once removed of James Winter.) Mollie Winter, ?, Maggie Winter. 1936-37
Back: Raymond George, (1st cousin once removed of James Winter.), ?, Maggie Winter, Seated, Mollie Winter 1936-37
Mollie Winter, Raymond George, Maggie Winter, 1936
Undated, unlabelled, possibly 1940s. Mardie Winter in Nanny Uniform.
Back of Glasgow picture
Mardie Winter, c. 1935. Only labelled Velox on rear of photo
L to R: Mardie Winter, maybe their mother Maggie, Mollie Winter
Maggie and James Winter, looks like Mollie at stern. David Murie suggest River Tay or the River Almond near Perth.
Mardie Winter on left. Labelled on reverse: "Goathland, 16 83, Velox."
Unknown two girls in back.
Middle Row: James, Mardie & Maggie (partly seen) Winter
Front: Agnes Winter,?, Christina Winter. c. 1930
David Murie writes, "Aren't the two ladies sharing a joke lovely? Molly back row right. Probably Margaret Winter took the picture, but who are all the others? Taken in the back garden at the Winter family residence at 4 Rosemount Place, Perth, I think."
Mardie Winter back left, father, Jim next to her. Mollie middle of front row.
Mardie with Beth Winter Gommi at Tarrytown, 24 Jul 1966
Mardie Winter rowing two small boys, 1937. Labelled Velox 27 50
Mardie Winter sea-bathing. On reverse labelled "15 X, Velox".
Unknown Cricketeer. 1938 pencilled on reverse. Imprinted 490 & SELO.
Unlabelled. This is a picture of David J B Murie as a toddler in the back garden at "Homelea", Glasgow Road, Perth. It had been kept by Mardie in a trinket box.
Unknown Cricketeer. 1938 pencilled on reverse. Imprinted 490 & SELO.
Mardie at right. Labelled on reverse: "336", Velox.
Unknowns. Reverse labelled "777", Velox
Mardie Winter in her Nanny uniform on right. Undated, unlabelled, possibly 1940s. No 40B139 printed on rear, Velox.
Unknowns. Mardie had two copies of photo.
Mardie Winter on right. Labelled "PM084" on reverse. Maybe in her job as Nanny.
Mardie Winter on left. Labelled on reverse: "PM 084, 1938"
May, Mardie, Chris & Isabella at Wrentham 26 Apr 1966
Mardie Winter at Land's End 18 Jun 1954. Labelled Colour of stones in Coronation Crown
DaughtInverclyde 1935. Mardie Winter sixth from left of seated row, with Molly Winter sitting on the grass directly in front. Velox, labelled 2
1906 Maria Darling Winter at 7-and-a-half months, I think pictured with her grandmother Mrs Maria Kidd (nee Easson), b. 1830. But why is the picture by Donald Fraser of Cardiff? This is a bit of a mystery
DaughtInverclyde 1935. Mardie Winter sixth from left of seated row, with Molly Winter sitting on the grass directly in front of Mardie. Velox, labelled 2
Mardie Winter, 6th from right, back row. Mollie Winter, seated . 5th from rightPencilled on reverse: "Inverclyde, Sept. 1935". Velox.
Mardie Winter at Land's End 18 Jun 1954 (directly under the N of the word END). Labelled "Colour of stones in Coronation Crown" - probably a reference to the colour of her dress? This was the year following the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain.
Rev. James Murray, Kilmacolm Parish, Scotland, c1920,, photo by Lafayette Ltd David Murie writes, "I think this is a picture of Rev. Dr. James Murray (b. 1848–d. Novembe 25, 1939 in his 91st year), minister at Kilmacolm, and husband of Margaret A Darling (1851-1935). He was an uncle of James Winter. James Murray wrote a book on the local history of Kilmacolm. He was the last minister in Scotland appointed under the patronage system. Wife was Margaret Ann Murray. Both are buried in Kilmacolm Cemetery.
c1920, unlabelled, photo by Lafayette Ltd. There is a serial number on the reverse, but almost totally illegible." A Rev. Foster Franklin mentioned in his estate.
Photograph by Lafayette Ltd. Reverse printed as a postcard. Murial Kidd Heaton says of the photo, "The photograph of the younger minister is very familiar to me. It graced someone's mantlepiece. It is the spitting image of my cousin Jack, but if that is him in the wedding photo, then the timing is off. It must be his Dad, Robert Arbuckle Barr. I never thought to ask who it really was, but it is certainly one of us. I'm not sure which one was a minister at Kilmacolm. This is Dad's youngest sister's family. Helen Margaret Kidd (my Auntie Elma) married Robert Barr and had 3 boys: John (Jack), George, and Robin. They all got various degrees, but all ended up in the ministry."
Back: Barbara, Elizabeth "Bessie", Front: David Young and Robert Arbuckle Barr. Elizabeth and Robert were siblings.Their sister Barbara according to some records died at age of 4. Might be their father's sister, Barbara, however she was born in 1871 so 10 years older than Robert.
Robert Arbuckle Barr service record. He is a law clerk here, but later became a minister.
Pencilled "Goathland, July 1935" on reverse. Labelled 12 26, Velox.
Looks like Mardie Winter holding the boy. Maybe Mollie Winter standing at left.
David Murie writes, "Probably a picture of a badminton club at Bridgend Church, Perth. At front row, right, is my father David AR Murie (1904-1985). On the back row, 3rd from left is Mardie Winter, and is that 2nd from left Mollie Winter - gazing in the direction of my father, the man she married?
Labelled "Perthshire Advertiser, Copyright Photograph" on reverse."
Maybe Mollie Winter at left and her mother, Maggie Winter in the middle. Handwritten on reverse: "August, 1935". Labelled 3899, Velox.
The Winter family home at 4 Rosemount Place, Perth, with Molly Winter in the front garden. Probably 1908.
Picture from page 2 of a family album, unlabelled (other pics on same page either 1908-09).
Pencilled on rear of photo: "Dr JM. 87/ Mr. Weir 84/ Dr? Allan 76/ Mr King 75/ 122 combined ages." Date 2/41, . On rear of cardboard mount: "Mr. Allen, Prestwick / Mr. Weir, Helensburgh/ d. 25.11.39. Dr Murray/ d. 8.3.41. Mr. King, Dundee".
George Maxwell and Marie Easson Kidd Family Maternal Grandparents of Mardie Winter
Background on Margaret Bella Kidd, Mardie and Mollie Winter's mother. Below is an email I received in 2012 from Alison T. McCal, photo at right regarding Margaret Kidd. It was most kind of her to share this information.
I am a PhD student at the University of Dundee, Scotland, researching educated Victorian women. Whilst going through the minutes of Dundee School Board I came across the following entry:
Dundee School Board minutes, 1891-92, page 30. - Margaret B. Kidd, LLA, teacher at Brown St School, sought the permission of the School Board to leave school at 4 o'clock to attend Botany Class at the University - permission granted.
The LLA (Lady Literate in Arts) was a degree for which young ladies could study mostly at home; it was at University level, but could be taken slowly, one subject at a time, so that young ladies would still have time for their daughterly duties! Margaret however took hers in just three years. Her sister Jessie took five years to gain her degree. I was intrigued that Margaret went onto to further study after her LLA. I googled her and found your wonderful website with photos of Margaret and Jessie as girls, and of Margaret, her husband and daughters Molly and Mardie. Alison McCall
Dundee School Board minutes 1901-1902, p623 (staff list)
Margaret B. Kidd, LLA, Appointed to School Board staff 6 Oct 1886
Appointed to current school (Tay Street) 3 Sept 1894
Certificated 1889
Not trained. (i.e. did not attend training college.)
Current position Assistant Class II Girls
Salary £90pa.
Recommended increase £5
Last increase Sept 1900.
Dundee School Board minutes 1902-1903, p835.
30 May 1902 - Margaret B. Kidd LLA, Cert. Asst. submitted resignation from Tay Street School.
Dundee School Board minutes 1902-1903, p848
23 June 1902 - School Board confirmed resignation of Margaret B. Kidd, LLA, from Tay Street School.
This means that Margaret was working as a teacher by day, and studying for her LLA in her spare time! She must have been very keen! There were two routes into teaching then. The first was by attending Teacher Training College. There was no college in Dundee, so this would have meant Margaret leaving home to study in either Edinburgh or Aberdeen (or, theoretically, Glasgow, but I haven't come across anyone from Dundee going to Glasgow.) The second route was simply by teaching and gaining practical experience, which was the route Margaret chose. In either case, teachers could apply for a certificate to confirm they were competent teachers; this was done one year after leaving college, or whenever a non-college teacher thought that she had reached the required standard. Margaret got her Certificate in 1889.
George Maxwell Kidd, Inscribed "Jessie M. Kidd (aunt of Mardie Winter), May 24th, 1898". photo was taken by Fraser of Dundee & Carnoustie.
Maria Easson Kidd (b.1830-1921) , maternal grandmother of Mardie Winter. Picture is labelled "Christmas 1896". Photo by Fraser, 55 Nethergate, Dundee. David Murie writes,, ":Inscribed "Jessie M. Kidd, May 24th, 1898".
Picture of George Maxwell Kidd (b. 1826-1908) and Maria Easson (b.1830-1921), maternal grandparents of Mardie Winter. Photo: by Fraser, Dundee & Carnoustie, possibly around 1890.
L to R: Marie Eason.(1862), Margaret Bella\ (1868) and Jessie Maxwell (1864) Kidd. Sisters. Daughters of George M and Marie Kidd. Margaret is Mardie Winter’s mother. Marie and Jessie never married.
Maria Kidd in front.
?, Maria Easson Kidd, she died at age 90.
Unlabelled miniature c. 1890, by Robertson of Dundee.
Back: L to R, Jessie M. (1864), Marie E. Kidd (1862), Frt: Unknown, Margaret B. Kidd.(1868). I am going to suggest that the unknown woman is Janet Ferguson Kidd, sister-in-law and wife of their brother Alexander Robert Kidd. Different dress than others. She was born 1868 so age fits.
David Murie comments on the picture, "Unlabelled miniature c. 1890, by Robertson of Dundee. This family group appear in several photographs. I earlier thought this was the Kidd sisters with their mother, but that was when I thought Jessie Kidd was a female name, not a male name! I am only aware of two sisters in this family, so if these are Kidds then who is the extra lady? Also, the lady at the back of the group is not Maria Easson if I have identified the earlier Kidd photograph correctly, so I'm still eager to identify who these people are. A later picture of the same four does identify M. B. Kidd (Mardie Winter's mother) as one of the four. Perhaps it is her and her sister not with their mother but with two girls from their wider family?
Labelled M.B.K. Jan. 1900. Picture by Fraser of 55 Nethergate, Dundee. Back L to R: Marie E. Kidd, Margaret B. Kidd. Frt: Unknown, Jessie M. Kidd. I am going to suggest that the unknown woman is Janet Ferguson Kidd, sister-in-law and wife of their brother Alexander Robert Kidd. She was born 1868 so age fits.
L to R: Marie E .(1862), Jessie M. (1864) & Margaret B. (1868) Kidd. Sisters.
L to R: Marie E., Margaret B, Maria (mother) and Jessie M. Kidd, child unknown Summer 1908, David Murie writes, "An early family snap of a sewing party, I think at Rosemount Place, showing Mollie Winter (front), with (L to R) Marie E., Margaret B., Maria (mother, nee Easson) and Jessie M. Kidd.
Labelled "J.W. 8.08", ie taken by James Winter, August,1908."
Kidd family sewing. Left to Right: ?, ?, maybe Jesse M. Kidd, Margaret B. Kidd (Winter)
Bck:Margaret B., Alexander R.(1867), Marie E. Kidd
2nd Row:?, Maria Eason Kidd, ? Summer 1908?
Frt:?,?,?
David Murie writes, "Taken at Rosemount Place, August 1908. Back row: Margaret M. Winter (nee Kidd), then either James Winter (I reckoned since he didn't take the picture) or Alexander R. Kidd (suggested by the Oakes), then Marie E. Kidd. The lady in the centre of the middle row is Maria Kidd (nee Easson), and the little girl at centre front is almost certainly Mollie Winter. Others unknown.
Labelled "J.M.K. 8.08", ie photo taken by Jessie M. Kidd. Margaret and James Winter back row, left."
Back: Margaret B. Kidd
Frt: Jessie M. and Maria Kidd (Mother) Summer 1908?
Labelled "J.W. G-5. 7.08". July of 1908.
The July date and the late June 1908 death of George Maxwell Kidd Sr. would permit one to conclude this was a funeral gathering.
Back row James Winter or George Easson Kidd, Mollie Winter and her mother Margaret "Maggie" Winter.
Front Row: Jessie Maxwell Kidd, ?, Marie Eason Kidd, George Maxwell Kidd (son of George Easson and Helen Lawson Kidd, Marie Eason Kidd (daughter)
At 4 Rosemount Place, left to right: suggest this is Helen Lawson Kidd, George Maxwell Kidd (son of George Easson and Helen Lawson Kidd), Maggie Kidd Winter on right, with Molly Winter centre. Picture by James Winter, July 1908. Related to funeral of George Maxwell Kidd Sr.
On 2nd page of a family album, labelled "J.W. / G7 / 7.08".
"1936" and "26" pencilled on rear. Also stamped Velox.
1921, George M. Kidd (b.1897). Son of George E. Kidd and Grandson of George M. Kidd. Cousin of Mardie Winter. Photo confirmed by Muriel Kidd Heaton. She writes, "He was my Dad's older brother & was known as Max,"
David Murie wrote "Inscribed "Sincerely yours, G. Maxwell Kidd, Christmas 1921". I know of one George Maxwell Kidd, born 1826 in Dundee and married in 1857, but this chap must have been from one of the later generations of the family.
Mounted in a cover entitled "Portrait By D. & W. Prophet, Dundee"
Alexander Robert Kidd (1867-1937), brother of Maggie Kidd, Mardie Winter’s uncle..
Alexander Robert Kidd (1867-1937), Red Cross, WWI, he would be about 50 - Herbert Morle, The Raeburn Studio, Perth. There is another Alexander Kidd in Perth at this time.
George M. Kidd (b.1897). Son of George E. Kidd and Grandson of George M. Kidd. Cousin of Mardie Winter. May 18, 1916.. Annotated below photograph in very faint handwriting: "G Maxwell Kidd, [Illegible], Dundee". Reverse labelled "G. Maxwell Kidd - 18.5.16."
He served in the Machine Gun Corps from 1914–1920 during WWI. He received a British War Medal and a Victory Medal.
Labelled on rear: "Frederick Heiton Kidd, 2 Years 2 Months". Mounted on card, imprinted underneath: "Fraser, Dundee & Carnoustie". ca. 1902. Photo confirmed by daughter, Muriel Kidd Heaton.
George M. Kidd (b.1897). Son of George E. Kidd and Grandson of George M. Kidd. Cousin of Mardie Winter. May 18, 1916.. Annotated below photograph in very faint handwriting: "G Maxwell Kidd, [Illegible], Dundee". Reverse labelled "G. Maxwell Kidd - 18.5.16."
He served in the Machine Gun Corps from 1914–1920 during WWI. He received a British War Medal and a Victory Medal.
Ladies sewing. They are in other pictures here.
Handwritten on reverse: "Isobel & Kathleen Crag[?], June 1934", and "144". Velox.
Hand-written on reverse "Muriel 15 weeks / Isobel 6 yrs 10 months", and imprinted SELO. They are Muriel and Isobel Kidd, daughters of Frederich Heiton and Ruby Lunan Kiddd. ca 1941. This was taken at Samnugger Mill, India, near Calcutta.
"Brodick, June 1932" on reverse. Also 39E 09? Velox.
Handwritten on reverse: "Muriel 9 weeks old". Muriel and Isobel Kidd daughters of Frederich Heiton and Ruby Lunan Kidd. Ruby is holding Muriel. This was taken at Samnugger Mills, India, near Calcutta.
Ruby and daughter, Isobel Kidd. Hand-written on reverse: "Isobel 9 months old". 632, Velox. Isobel Lunan Kidd, born March 27, 1935, in Dundee. She is the daughter of Frederich Heiton and Ruby Lunan Kidd. Frederich's father was George Easson Kidd, Mardie's uncle. If this is correct then the picture is Dec. 1935. Does not look like Scotland in winter. Isobel's sister Muriel confirms the id and says they were probably living at Samnugger Mill on the Hoogley River. There was a Samnugger Jute Mill there. The jute industry had a start in Dundee and prospered until later part of 19th century when cheaper labor and raw material were needed. Various Dundee jute mill owners created companies in Calcutta, along the Hoogley River. These mills prospered throught the First World War and fell on hard times by the late 1930s.
In October of 1835, Ruby and Isobel leave for Calcutta, India, Isobel is 6 months old. In May of 1937, when Isobel was 2, she and her mother Ruby arrive in London from Calcutta.
Isobel Lunan Kidd Prime (1935–2020)
Russell Prime, husband of Isobel Lunan Kidd.
George Maxwell and Mary Anderson Lunan Kidd. Samnugger Mill, India.
Muriel writes, "2 Kidd brothers married 2 Lunan sisters."
Handwritten on reverse: "A little squint but quite good." Labelled E1, Velox.
On the right is Auntie Elma & my cousin Jack, her eldest son.
Pencilled on reverse: "I think Jack has grown since this was taken. George said today I was looking up 3 feet." 054L. Velox.
Hand-written on reverse: "Taken looking over to the snow clad Himalayas. Darjeeling, May 1932." Muriel Kidd Heaton writes of this photo, "The people on horseback. Definitely 1932. Certainly not uncle Max. I was hoping for a second opinion on the 3rd person, but we are still in semi-lockdown here, so no one was forthcoming. Looking again at the photo above of Max & Mary Lunan Kidd, it could be Mary on the right & probably my Mum, Ruby Kidd, in the middle, with Dad taking the photo. I wondered why they were all wearing ties & if the other 2 were men, but by the way the groom is holding the reins I assume they are women. Could also be a friend of Max & Mary's, as Max worked for a different company than my Dad..
Muriel Kidd Heaton writes, "The man in the suit is my Dad, Frederich Heiton Kidd. He started as the office boy at Thomas Duff & Co. in Dundee, went to India in the early1920s & after 30 years there, ended up back in Dundee as a director of the company."
Frederich Heiton Kidd, Muriel is not 100% sure, but I think this same man as at left. Muriel said her dad was a natty dresser and would choose appearance over comfort. Maybe he was being sarcastic in the attached comment?
Labelled “The usual way with me, Comfort.”
Unknown Family Photos from Mardie Winter's Files
1895 Unlabelled - photo by Warneuke, Glasgow. David Murie writes, "A very elegant picture of a mystery lady, c1895. Unlabelled - photo by Warneuke, 153 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow. Various representations of photography prizes printed on rear with dates between 1853-94. As the more recent ones are 1894 this implies a date of 1895 for the picture."
ca 1925 perhaps, Entirely unlabelled
10.7.35, Dunkeld. Also labelled 733.
c1910 Unlabelled, Printed as a postcard by Williamson & Co of Norwich
Written on reverse: "With May's Christmas Greetings". Imprinted on front beneath photograph: "Fraser, Dundee & Carnoustie"
Unidentified, c1890. Photo by Th. Larsen, Tonsberg, Norway. The existence of a photograph from Norway is a mystery, but there is also a small pack of B&W postcards from Norway from around the same period
Unidentified relatives of Mardie Winter. Another photo of vicar above.
Photograph by Lafayette Ltd. Reverse printed as a postcard. Murial Kidd Heaton says of the photo, "The photograph of the younger minister is very familiar to me. It graced someone's mantlepiece. It is the spitting image of my cousin Jack, but if that is him in the wedding photo, then the timing is off. It must be his Dad, Robert Arbuckle Barr. I never thought to ask who it really was, but it is certainly one of us. I'm not sure which one was a minister at Kilmacolm. This is Dad's youngest sister's family. Helen Margaret Kidd (my Auntie Elma) married Robert Barr and had 3 boys: John (Jack), George, and Robin. They all got various degrees, but all ended up in the ministry."
Maybe Winter house. Three women at door. Muriel Kidd Heaton does not think it is a Kidd house.
Maybe Winter or Kidd children.
Qutie a set of hats! Are these ladies Winters or Kidds?
Picture taken by James Winter, 6th January 1909. From p2 of a family album, labelled "JW. / G.17. / 6.1.09".
David Murie thinks this is a picture of the Rev. Dr. James Murray, minister at Kilmacolm, presumably with his wife Margaret A Darling (1851-1935), uncle and aunt to James Winter.
Woman in Frame
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Signed "Yours very sincerely, Loudon Forbes". Labelled underneath: "Studio Cecily, 206 [0r 306?] Sauchiehall St., Glasgow".
Annotated below photograph in very faint handwriting: "G Maxwell Kidd, [Illegible], Dundee". Reverse labelled "G. Maxwell Kidd - 18.5.16."
Pencilled 1934 on reverse, and stamped T9 and Velox.
Pencilled "1937" and "26" on reverse. Imprinted "Velox".
Murdoch-Winter family ties. (Courtesy of David Murie)
Dr. Murdoch came from Scotland to Canada as a missionary of the London Colonial Missionary Society. He Preached in Canada for many years. In 1837 Dr. David Murdoch and Elizabeth Bissett came to the United States with their family of six children, settling first at Ballston, NY in 1841 removing to the Catskill's. He graduated at the University of Glasgow, and he studied Theology with the late Ralph Wardlaw D.D. He preached at the Dutch Reformed Churches in and around Catskill, NY. In 1851 went to Elmira, NY and served as the Minister 1st Presbyterian Church of Elmira, NY. Rev. David joined the Abolition Party, having been a Whig previously, he helped with the Underground RR. He then managed a colored Sunday school over 40 years and he states that was even more unpopular than the RR, especially with the churches. Rev Murdoch was voted out of the Presbyterian Church by the Presbytery. He built a new church Lake Street Presbyterian Church, and 120 of his old congregation went with him. He died before he could give a Sermon at the Pulpit at his new church. There is a large plaque in the vestibule of Lake Street Church in Elmira, NY, in tribute to him. I have the book that by Ralph Wardlaw D. D. wrote and David Murdoch D. D. used as a reference. The book was presented to me by the Minister of Lake Street Church in 2003. David Murdoch wrote many articles and book's which I am collecting.
1937 Velox print. Labelled 27 50.
1937 Velox print. Labelled 27 50.
Agnes Winter's Watercolors
Agnes Winter Watercolor St. Abbs Head, Scotland
(picture courtesy of Martha Koziol)
St. Abbs Head, Southeast Coast of Scotland
Agnes may have painted from bottom of this road
Very similar formation to that in Agnes’ watercolor
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Background on Margaret Bella Kidd, Mardie and Mollie Winter's mother. Below is an email I received in 2012 from Alison T. McCal, photo at right regarding Margaret Kidd. It was most kind of her to share this information.
